Comments on: Of Jealousy and All-Stars http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/ Utah Jazz Official Fan and Team Blog Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:09:49 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Marielle http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7482 Marielle Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:10:05 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7482 Mal- I'm so proud to have a NBA know-it-all as a best friend. And I mean that as a compliment. I am so happy with the progress you have made as a Jazz fan. GO JAZZ! Mal- I’m so proud to have a NBA know-it-all as a best friend. And I mean that as a compliment. I am so happy with the progress you have made as a Jazz fan. GO JAZZ!

]]> By: Mal http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7350 Mal Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:51:14 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7350 Brian, no direct shots, just a general statement :). The only person I take direct shots at on this site is the one and only Carlos Boozer. Brian, no direct shots, just a general statement :) . The only person I take direct shots at on this site is the one and only Carlos Boozer.

]]> By: Jenn Sokia http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7348 Jenn Sokia Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:24:34 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7348 I had to learn to admit the jealousy a while ago since I am living with a Laker fan. I find myself less angry and more supportive when I can admit my jealousy of other players/teams. :) I had to learn to admit the jealousy a while ago since I am living with a Laker fan. I find myself less angry and more supportive when I can admit my jealousy of other players/teams. :)

]]> By: Brian McCann http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7299 Brian McCann Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:40:09 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7299 Mal- Is that a direct shot at me?:) Mal- Is that a direct shot at me?:)

]]> By: Mal http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7298 Mal Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:54:03 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7298 Thanks Drew! The homerism here at the Bot is kinda getting to me too ;). Thanks for contributing to the honest conversation. Thanks Drew! The homerism here at the Bot is kinda getting to me too ;) . Thanks for contributing to the honest conversation.

]]> By: drew http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7289 drew Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:55:10 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7289 refreshing objective blog... best one iv read on the jazz forums. well done. and think about the phil jackson thing this way, to some of you rebutting mal - you may think he is a horrible coach, or overrated but his coaching style is spot on for teams that have one superstar and then mediocre players, not for teams like the jazz or spurs who are more well rounded. some coaches and organizations function better off of well rounded teams and some better off of a superstar with a few more less qualified players. i support the jazz but i also think the nba has moved into an era where the teams with superstars like kobe, lebron, kg, and howard are most likely to win championships. and it is kind of leaving behind the overall well rounded conservative teams. refreshing objective blog… best one iv read on the jazz forums. well done.

and think about the phil jackson thing this way, to some of you rebutting mal – you may think he is a horrible coach, or overrated but his coaching style is spot on for teams that have one superstar and then mediocre players, not for teams like the jazz or spurs who are more well rounded. some coaches and organizations function better off of well rounded teams and some better off of a superstar with a few more less qualified players. i support the jazz but i also think the nba has moved into an era where the teams with superstars like kobe, lebron, kg, and howard are most likely to win championships. and it is kind of leaving behind the overall well rounded conservative teams.

]]> By: Boondock Saint http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7280 Boondock Saint Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:12:30 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7280 I must admit that I feel the same way as James though....rather lose gloriously with guts, heart and the rest of the world against us than win with star treatment and a bigger bank roll. My jealousy stems from traits that other players/teams have like intensity and leadership and that the Jazz are still working on. I think Deron is doing his best but he needs another voice in that locker room (ESPECIALLY on the road). Nothing was better than being at the Lakers vs. Jazz game and Deron took the mantle and handled business. James, I think that you'll find that "every bitter year–every heartbreaking spring–even as we have to choke back the sadness and anger, there still isn’t a place on Earth" you'll find fans like you, me and Mal (and anyone else that comments on this blog) would rather be then right by each other and behind our Jazz. I must admit that I feel the same way as James though….rather lose gloriously with guts, heart and the rest of the world against us than win with star treatment and a bigger bank roll. My jealousy stems from traits that other players/teams have like intensity and leadership and that the Jazz are still working on. I think Deron is doing his best but he needs another voice in that locker room (ESPECIALLY on the road). Nothing was better than being at the Lakers vs. Jazz game and Deron took the mantle and handled business. James, I think that you’ll find that “every bitter year–every heartbreaking spring–even as we have to choke back the sadness and anger, there still isn’t a place on Earth” you’ll find fans like you, me and Mal (and anyone else that comments on this blog) would rather be then right by each other and behind our Jazz.

]]> By: Mal http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7278 Mal Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:48:32 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7278 Hey Boondock, I didn't see your comment til after I already made my last one, but I have to comment back to you because I love that you have courageously admitted your jealousy as a fan! No one else has had that same courage Everyone else is still hiding from that piece of them :). I love that you get it that you can be jealous yet can still be the BIGGEST fan in the whole world. Good work Boondock. We are the same kind of fan. Keep reading and posting. I always love what you have to say. Hey Boondock, I didn’t see your comment til after I already made my last one, but I have to comment back to you because I love that you have courageously admitted your jealousy as a fan! No one else has had that same courage Everyone else is still hiding from that piece of them :) . I love that you get it that you can be jealous yet can still be the BIGGEST fan in the whole world. Good work Boondock. We are the same kind of fan. Keep reading and posting. I always love what you have to say.

]]> By: James Seaman http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7277 James Seaman Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:07:33 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7277 Mal, Jealous? No way. Of course I'd love to win a championship. But I'd rather lose gloriously and with a ton of guts and go down with my ship than be winning somewhere else. And every bitter year--every heartbreaking spring--even as I have to choke back the sadness and anger, there still isn't a place on Earth I'd rather be than alongside my Jazz. And that's what will make the promised land worth it when we finally make it there. Mal,
Jealous? No way. Of course I’d love to win a championship. But I’d rather lose gloriously and with a ton of guts and go down with my ship than be winning somewhere else. And every bitter year–every heartbreaking spring–even as I have to choke back the sadness and anger, there still isn’t a place on Earth I’d rather be than alongside my Jazz. And that’s what will make the promised land worth it when we finally make it there.

]]> By: Mal http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7275 Mal Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:32:11 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7275 Woah, woah, woah Mr. Brian McCann. How in any way did I indicate I was giving up on my Utah Jazz? It seems like some people are going into 'defend mode' as we speak. It sounds like you yourself might be a little jealous JR that the Lakers will spend over the luxury tax while our organization will not. Don't be afraid of jealousy--it's just a natural part of life. Woah, woah, woah Mr. Brian McCann. How in any way did I indicate I was giving up on my Utah Jazz?

It seems like some people are going into ‘defend mode’ as we speak. It sounds like you yourself might be a little jealous JR that the Lakers will spend over the luxury tax while our organization will not.

Don’t be afraid of jealousy–it’s just a natural part of life.

]]> By: Boondock Saint http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7273 Boondock Saint Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:25:09 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7273 I feel ya Mal. I don't agree with what you admire in Kobe or Phil but I feel where you are coming from. My issues with the Jazz's lack of leadership and intensity run deep because I feel that it is our last hurdle to get that ring. The problem is that we might well lose the pieces they have put together to win that ring before we learn to be intense on the road and against sub par teams. I feel the jealousy Mal and I'm with ya that the day will come when we will all feel the sweetness of that championship. I feel ya Mal. I don’t agree with what you admire in Kobe or Phil but I feel where you are coming from. My issues with the Jazz’s lack of leadership and intensity run deep because I feel that it is our last hurdle to get that ring. The problem is that we might well lose the pieces they have put together to win that ring before we learn to be intense on the road and against sub par teams. I feel the jealousy Mal and I’m with ya that the day will come when we will all feel the sweetness of that championship.

]]> By: Linda McFarland http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7272 Linda McFarland Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:35:47 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7272 Really great blog Mal, and so very true about a lot of us. The only thing is that I can't share is the admiration of Phil. Like other bloggers said, he has had great talent all along and you can't convince me that in that locality there isn't some "under the table" money that crosses hands. If Jack Nicholson thinks his Lakers are wonderful and they need maybe several thousand dollars for something I am sure it comes about. That place is $,$,$ and they are people who are used to getting what they want. It is just me but I have often wondered if there wasn't some money that was given to Fisher to entice him to come their way Money talks and even if it is against the NBA rules, it wouldn't matter to those people. They get what they want no matter what. Oh well, I am thrilled with our organization and also wish our coach had those two traits, but I will take him with the traits he has over Phil anyday!!!!! Really great blog Mal, and so very true about a lot of us. The only thing is that I can’t share is the admiration of Phil. Like other bloggers said, he has had great talent all along and you can’t convince me that in that locality there isn’t some “under the table” money that crosses hands. If Jack Nicholson thinks his Lakers are wonderful and they need maybe several thousand dollars for something I am sure it comes about. That place is $,$,$ and they are people who are used to getting what they want. It is just me but I have often wondered if there wasn’t some money that was given to Fisher to entice him to come their way Money talks and even if it is against the NBA rules, it wouldn’t matter to those people. They get what they want no matter what. Oh well, I am thrilled with our organization and also wish our coach had those two traits, but I will take him with the traits he has over Phil anyday!!!!!

]]> By: J R Stewart http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7270 J R Stewart Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:06:44 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7270 I hate the Lakers because of their 'entitlement.' Pill goes to the teams with the best players. Put those players on any other team and watch the rings migrate. Pill's arrogance is unending. Kobe's humility is nonexistent. The Lakers buy their championships by grossly overspending and disregarding the luxury tax. A ring at any cost! They feel entitled to free gifts like Pau and Fish, giving up nothing in return. They seem to cheat the system any way they can. Contrast that with the Blazers, since they've got rid of all their thugs, or the Jazz. There are teams/coaches/organizations you can cheer for and those you hate. Jazzaholic I hate the Lakers because of their ‘entitlement.’ Pill goes to the teams with the best players. Put those players on any other team and watch the rings migrate. Pill’s arrogance is unending. Kobe’s humility is nonexistent. The Lakers buy their championships by grossly overspending and disregarding the luxury tax. A ring at any cost! They feel entitled to free gifts like Pau and Fish, giving up nothing in return. They seem to cheat the system any way they can.
Contrast that with the Blazers, since they’ve got rid of all their thugs, or the Jazz.
There are teams/coaches/organizations you can cheer for and those you hate.

Jazzaholic

]]> By: Brian McCann http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7269 Brian McCann Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:19:47 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7269 Mal, good post, but don't give up on them yet...we are just about as young as the Blazers, and have had some great success in the past couple of years. Plus, where do you think Portland would be if they lost Roy for the first half of the season? My guess is they would not be having so much fun. My point is, Deron is 24, Carlos is 27 (and may very well be back next year:), and the rest of the team aren't exactly old either. We will bounce back from this year (hopefully starting tomorrow). As for Philip- Great coach, but I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see him take on a team without an established superstar to see how good he really is. Only choosing to coach teams that are poised to win can have a pretty obvious outcome-although he does a good job of taking them to the next level. What would happen though if he took over for the Clips, Thunder, or Bobcats? I have a lot of respect for Larry Brown for taking on that challenge, but Philip would never do it. Mal, good post, but don’t give up on them yet…we are just about as young as the Blazers, and have had some great success in the past couple of years. Plus, where do you think Portland would be if they lost Roy for the first half of the season? My guess is they would not be having so much fun.

My point is, Deron is 24, Carlos is 27 (and may very well be back next year:), and the rest of the team aren’t exactly old either. We will bounce back from this year (hopefully starting tomorrow).

As for Philip- Great coach, but I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see him take on a team without an established superstar to see how good he really is. Only choosing to coach teams that are poised to win can have a pretty obvious outcome-although he does a good job of taking them to the next level. What would happen though if he took over for the Clips, Thunder, or Bobcats? I have a lot of respect for Larry Brown for taking on that challenge, but Philip would never do it.

]]> By: Caderade http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/02/16/ready-of-jealousy-and-all-stars/comment-page-1/#comment-7268 Caderade Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:12:38 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=2976#comment-7268 Phil Jackson's overrated. Anyone can win championships with MJ, Kobe, and Shaq on their team. I'll take Sloan any day of the week. Phil Jackson’s overrated. Anyone can win championships with MJ, Kobe, and Shaq on their team. I’ll take Sloan any day of the week.

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