Comments on: The Boozer Rumors http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/ Utah Jazz Official Fan and Team Blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:00:49 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: tman11 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10309 tman11 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:06:10 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10309 Well Raja wanted to leave and, I'm a firm believer if some one doesn't want to be here get out of here then. Mo and Dee I can;t see cause they saw the talent there but still got rid of them. If you think about it though if we didnt get rid of Mo We wouldn't have Dwill so i guess it was a good thing. Don't blame it on coaching though that's front office problems Kevin O Coner problems he gets the players. So if your going to blame some one put it on him Well Raja wanted to leave and, I’m a firm believer if some one doesn’t want to be here get out of here then. Mo and Dee I can;t see cause they saw the talent there but still got rid of them. If you think about it though if we didnt get rid of Mo We wouldn’t have Dwill so i guess it was a good thing. Don’t blame it on coaching though that’s front office problems Kevin O Coner problems he gets the players. So if your going to blame some one put it on him

]]> By: coco http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10307 coco Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:36:41 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10307 ya weell we got rid of alot of good guyys like dee brown mo williams raja bell and many others coaching problem ya weell we got rid of alot of good guyys like dee brown mo williams raja bell and many others coaching problem

]]> By: tman11 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10251 tman11 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:27:50 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10251 Hey I'm a fan for speeding up the game. It killed me when every time brevin was it the pace slowed right down. It hurt are defence cause they decided to play it safe and, not go for steal when he was in the game and, it hurt are offence we basically had 4 guys playing when he was in. I mean what did Knight really do AK brought the ball down, AK called out the play and, the other three ran. the play. AK was a re piont gaurd when Brevin was in. I just really don't think Ronny is the answer at the piont gaurd spot. He doesn't make smart decisions he has never been a true piont gaurd. He is to much of a loose cannon he and, he can't control the other 4 guys on the court or the tempo of the game. That's why I want to see the jazz draft a piont gaurd. I wish we still had Dee Brown i think we mad a mistake with that guy. He could do all those thing Ronny can't do. With your big men nmow having the potental to either make or break your team I think is all the more reason the draft a piont gaurd. All the talent in this draft beside a hand full of big men are guards so take the most talent in this draft. Let's see if are big men will make or break us. We got one more big man coming over here this year any ways with Tomic. he's like a rookie, I also wouldn't mind if we pick up a guy like heytvelt or Nevil in the second. But with the first pick I really feel we need to address the guard position. I was thinking more on the lines of a combo guard that way we can get him in a few year if Almond doesn't produce. I don't think he will he is way to passive up on this level and, if you had a guy that can back up Dwill and Brewer you would be set for a long time. Hey I’m a fan for speeding up the game. It killed me when every time brevin was it the pace slowed right down. It hurt are defence cause they decided to play it safe and, not go for steal when he was in the game and, it hurt are offence we basically had 4 guys playing when he was in. I mean what did Knight really do AK brought the ball down, AK called out the play and, the other three ran. the play. AK was a re piont gaurd when Brevin was in. I just really don’t think Ronny is the answer at the piont gaurd spot. He doesn’t make smart decisions he has never been a true piont gaurd. He is to much of a loose cannon he and, he can’t control the other 4 guys on the court or the tempo of the game.
That’s why I want to see the jazz draft a piont gaurd. I wish we still had Dee Brown i think we mad a mistake with that guy. He could do all those thing Ronny can’t do. With your big men nmow having the potental to either make or break your team I think is all the more reason the draft a piont gaurd. All the talent in this draft beside a hand full of big men are guards so take the most talent in this draft. Let’s see if are big men will make or break us. We got one more big man coming over here this year any ways with Tomic. he’s like a rookie, I also wouldn’t mind if we pick up a guy like heytvelt or Nevil in the second. But with the first pick I really feel we need to address the guard position. I was thinking more on the lines of a combo guard that way we can get him in a few year if Almond doesn’t produce. I don’t think he will he is way to passive up on this level and, if you had a guy that can back up Dwill and Brewer you would be set for a long time.

]]> By: Jared http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10245 Jared Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:42:50 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10245 tmann, I generally agree with you, but on Ronnie Price I just disagree. Is he anywhere close to D-Will, no and he is never going to be. What he does give you is speed and energy off the bench. Whenever Knight went into the game, the game got slow. I guess my point is that whether we stick with Ronnie Price or pick a guard, I want them to be high energy and up-tempo. If we go into next season and play a slow half court game, we wont even make the playoffs next year. When we had Stockton and Malone we could half court other teams to death, because we had two unstoppable players running the pick and roll, which for them was unstoppable. With our current team, we don't have that. We have D-Will and he is creative enough off the dribble to be close to unstoppable, but after that we fall apart on offense. We are literally out-manned at every other position. When our offense is moving quick, our guys know where they are supposed to be and we can get them the ball quickly and they can get behind the defense, but when we slow it down, we become predictable, and other teams with more defensive talent smother our offense. But this brings me to your other point which I think is spot on. If we draft a big man at 20th in the draft, he isn't ever going to play for the Jazz next year. Like it or not (and I fall into the not category) Jerry Sloan's system is death to rookies. D-Will didn't even get that much playing time the first half of his rookie year. This means that we have currently 3 players who we have no idea how good they are. (Fes, Koufos, Almond) And lets face it, if even one of those guys had blossomed last year because he got enough minutes to get his NBA legs, we would all have a much different perspective on what the Jazz needed from this draft. In my opinion this puts us in a loose - loose situation. We have unproven, unplayed players that could make our team drastically better, and we are heading into a draft to fill holes we may already have filled. Personally, I think that it is a coaching problem. Jerry hasn't changed the way he plays his guys since we had John and Karl, but our needs have changed. I don't think any or our untested players are the caliber of Stockton or Malone, but you basically have to be the caliber of one of those guys or D-Will to get any rookie playing time. For me all that means is that whoever we draft will sit the bench and maybe get some D-League time, but unless they blossom in a ridiculously short amount of time, they will never get a real chance in a Jazz uniform, and if makes me sick. Sorry for the length of this rant, the off-season is just not going quick enough for me. tmann, I generally agree with you, but on Ronnie Price I just disagree. Is he anywhere close to D-Will, no and he is never going to be. What he does give you is speed and energy off the bench. Whenever Knight went into the game, the game got slow. I guess my point is that whether we stick with Ronnie Price or pick a guard, I want them to be high energy and up-tempo. If we go into next season and play a slow half court game, we wont even make the playoffs next year.

When we had Stockton and Malone we could half court other teams to death, because we had two unstoppable players running the pick and roll, which for them was unstoppable. With our current team, we don’t have that. We have D-Will and he is creative enough off the dribble to be close to unstoppable, but after that we fall apart on offense. We are literally out-manned at every other position. When our offense is moving quick, our guys know where they are supposed to be and we can get them the ball quickly and they can get behind the defense, but when we slow it down, we become predictable, and other teams with more defensive talent smother our offense.

But this brings me to your other point which I think is spot on. If we draft a big man at 20th in the draft, he isn’t ever going to play for the Jazz next year. Like it or not (and I fall into the not category) Jerry Sloan’s system is death to rookies. D-Will didn’t even get that much playing time the first half of his rookie year. This means that we have currently 3 players who we have no idea how good they are. (Fes, Koufos, Almond) And lets face it, if even one of those guys had blossomed last year because he got enough minutes to get his NBA legs, we would all have a much different perspective on what the Jazz needed from this draft. In my opinion this puts us in a loose – loose situation. We have unproven, unplayed players that could make our team drastically better, and we are heading into a draft to fill holes we may already have filled. Personally, I think that it is a coaching problem. Jerry hasn’t changed the way he plays his guys since we had John and Karl, but our needs have changed. I don’t think any or our untested players are the caliber of Stockton or Malone, but you basically have to be the caliber of one of those guys or D-Will to get any rookie playing time. For me all that means is that whoever we draft will sit the bench and maybe get some D-League time, but unless they blossom in a ridiculously short amount of time, they will never get a real chance in a Jazz uniform, and if makes me sick.

Sorry for the length of this rant, the off-season is just not going quick enough for me.

]]> By: tman11 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10227 tman11 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:29:58 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10227 I don't care if every one agrees with you on this subject cause every one that does is wrong about it. Your whole game runs thru your piont gaurd he sets every thing up he runs the tempo he does every thing. Ronyy i s a great player but he isn't a piont gaurd he can't set every thing up and, be a leader out on the court that's why they need to draft a piont guard. Your not going to loose game by give these big guys a chance. You will win alot more games. The reason why every one is agreeing with you is they are seeing this draft as a quick fix but, what you don't realize is two things. One this draft class isn't that strong especially thing big guys out side of blair tabeet and giffin your not going to get much. That's why you take the best talent wich is a gaurd. The second reason is jerry doesn't play his rookies. we are going to draft a big and he is goin to be in morris alomonds situtation. Barried on the bench because they is so much talent in front of him and, it's going to be a waste of a pick..It wont matter how good he is jerry will give the guys that know the offence and have more NBA experience wich will be kosta and, kez at the time. So we will have anther guyt where we wont know his potentail cause he wont see the floor. Atleast at guard he will be able to get a shot and, prove him self. I don’t care if every one agrees with you on this subject cause every one that does is wrong about it. Your whole game runs thru your piont gaurd he sets every thing up he runs the tempo he does every thing. Ronyy i s a great player but he isn’t a piont gaurd he can’t set every thing up and, be a leader out on the court that’s why they need to draft a piont guard. Your not going to loose game by give these big guys a chance. You will win alot more games. The reason why every one is agreeing with you is they are seeing this draft as a quick fix but, what you don’t realize is two things. One this draft class isn’t that strong especially thing big guys out side of blair tabeet and giffin your not going to get much. That’s why you take the best talent wich is a gaurd. The second reason is jerry doesn’t play his rookies. we are going to draft a big and he is goin to be in morris alomonds situtation. Barried on the bench because they is so much talent in front of him and, it’s going to be a waste of a pick..It wont matter how good he is jerry will give the guys that know the offence and have more NBA experience wich will be kosta and, kez at the time. So we will have anther guyt where we wont know his potentail cause he wont see the floor. Atleast at guard he will be able to get a shot and, prove him self.

]]> By: coco http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10215 coco Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:08:16 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10215 Hey tman i didnt say ronnie price was great i said quote "He has done fine backing up dwill" end quote i said he does fine they just need to give him a chance and it is looking like everyone is agreeing with me sorry man. if we give the 7 footers a chance we will start losing games give them thier time to shine in the d league if they do good pull them up and then see how they do i like koufous and fes but i dont think they are very good. Hey tman i didnt say ronnie price was great i said quote “He has done fine backing up dwill” end quote i said he does fine they just need to give him a chance and it is looking like everyone is agreeing with me sorry man. if we give the 7 footers a chance we will start losing games give them thier time to shine in the d league if they do good pull them up and then see how they do i like koufous and fes but i dont think they are very good.

]]> By: Derrick Daye http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10211 Derrick Daye Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:18:47 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10211 Brandi & Eddy, it's nice to see you two getting along so well. We know you're the same person with one IP Address. Spare us and stick to one name please. Derrick Brandi & Eddy, it’s nice to see you two getting along so well. We know you’re the same person with one IP Address. Spare us and stick to one name please.

Derrick

]]> By: Eddy http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10210 Eddy Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:45:33 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10210 You're right Brandi, Some of us have a hard time leaving the Stockton Malone years behind. I guess some of us are living in the past when the Jazz had a chance. It can be tough to watch these days :) What do you think the chances of the Jazz picking up a good Power Forward and do you think they should recruit established talent or develop a young player into the Sloan system? You’re right Brandi, Some of us have a hard time leaving the Stockton Malone years behind. I guess some of us are living in the past when the Jazz had a chance. It can be tough to watch these days :) What do you think the chances of the Jazz picking up a good Power Forward and do you think they should recruit established talent or develop a young player into the Sloan system?

]]> By: Brandi http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10209 Brandi Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:39:02 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10209 Coco- you are exactly right. I guess it is easy for us long time Jazz fans to get hung up on the whole Stockton-Malone thing. But those days are gone and we should be focused on the team we have now. Jared- Good call on the PG, there is not an issue there. we need a big that can play and can lead. tman11- Are you sure its the Jazz you've been watching? Coco- you are exactly right. I guess it is easy for us long time Jazz fans to get hung up on the whole Stockton-Malone thing. But those days are gone and we should be focused on the team we have now.

Jared- Good call on the PG, there is not an issue there. we need a big that can play and can lead.

tman11- Are you sure its the Jazz you’ve been watching?

]]> By: tman11 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10199 tman11 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:09:45 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10199 How do you know they can't play D we haven't even seen half of are 7 footers play? He hasn't done great backing up Dwill, he was doing great he would of had the job by now. He has had two years to prove him self and apartently Ronny hasn't because Sloan is still bringing diffrent guys in to back up Dwill. The thing about ronny to is he isn't a piont gaurd he is a small two gaurd you can't have a two runnin the show at piont i'm sorry you need a true piont to handlethat job. Epecailly in a jerry sloan system. How do you know they can’t play D we haven’t even seen half of are 7 footers play? He hasn’t done great backing up Dwill, he was doing great he would of had the job by now. He has had two years to prove him self and apartently Ronny hasn’t because Sloan is still bringing diffrent guys in to back up Dwill. The thing about ronny to is he isn’t a piont gaurd he is a small two gaurd you can’t have a two runnin the show at piont i’m sorry you need a true piont to handlethat job. Epecailly in a jerry sloan system.

]]> By: coco http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10187 coco Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:09:19 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10187 dude we dont need a point gaurd give ronnie price a chance sloan he has done fine backing up dwill he just needs to work on his shot a little bit. and hes got hops remember when he swated luke walton or when he was on the kings and dunked on carlos boozer dunk of the century! we need a big man for sure, sure we got 7 footers but they cant play d we need guys to match up with the lakers and other big man teams i know the draft sucks this year except for blake griffen but lets see what we do. dude we dont need a point gaurd give ronnie price a chance sloan he has done fine backing up dwill he just needs to work on his shot a little bit. and hes got hops remember when he swated luke walton or when he was on the kings and dunked on carlos boozer dunk of the century! we need a big man for sure, sure we got 7 footers but they cant play d we need guys to match up with the lakers and other big man teams i know the draft sucks this year except for blake griffen but lets see what we do.

]]> By: tman11 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10186 tman11 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:11:46 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10186 We all know that we lost alot of are game last year because are second string went in and, lost a step or two in the game when are second string came in. That's a piont gaurds fault we need a guy to go in with are second string and set the tempo. I would even like a 2 gaurd that can play both 1 and 2 that way you can get him a lot of minutes if he tunrs out to be a stub up at this level. The guy I love at 20 is Nando De Colo. If you are just a sub par fan you haven't heard much about him. But he is a true piont guard at 6'5, so he can back up Dwill there and play some at the two if he is any good because of his size. It works with jerry very well cause he has to go one more year in france before coming over here to play. So he can develope over there and come over next year and, be ready to paly. instead of sitting on the side lines watching all this year We all know that we lost alot of are game last year because are second string went in and, lost a step or two in the game when are second string came in. That’s a piont gaurds fault we need a guy to go in with are second string and set the tempo. I would even like a 2 gaurd that can play both 1 and 2 that way you can get him a lot of minutes if he tunrs out to be a stub up at this level. The guy I love at 20 is Nando De Colo. If you are just a sub par fan you haven’t heard much about him. But he is a true piont guard at 6′5, so he can back up Dwill there and play some at the two if he is any good because of his size. It works with jerry very well cause he has to go one more year in france before coming over here to play. So he can develope over there and come over next year and, be ready to paly. instead of sitting on the side lines watching all this year

]]> By: tman11 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10185 tman11 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:05:51 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10185 Yeah we watched the same playoff game and every time Knight was in we went for riding a high note to barely staying in the game. As far as are bigs go we have most likely 4 guys on the team next year thats going to be 7 feet or taller. With Kosta Fes Okur and, if they bring him over Tomic who we drafted last year. Now Kosta and Okur can keep with the bigs and , let's see what Fes can do comin off the bech with Milsap why do you want more bigs when you have 2 guys that play that position very well and 2 that haven't gotten a chance to prove them selfs? Keep the bigs we have now. You can't afford to loose a step when Dwill is out of the game that's why you draft a PG in this situtation. We don't know what's going to be of Ronny Price any way Jerry has made it clear by bench him the last two year he doesn't like him. Now I now after game 5 of LA he said he made a mistake but, e still doesn't like his style to much he made that obvisous. So why don't you draft a PG that Jerry like and get a big in the second round? Your draft picks aren't goin to play this year any ways. Tyler will get drafted and spend this year and maybe the next down in the Dleague like almond and Kosta this year. A draft pick isn't going to help out the jazz at all this year look for a long term affect. That's why you get a piont guard this year. You have 3 or 4 big guys that haven't even got a shot to prove them slefs see what they can do this year let your piont guard sit on the bench like all are draft picks and, If the big guys we have don't work out you draft anther one next year Yeah we watched the same playoff game and every time Knight was in we went for riding a high note to barely staying in the game. As far as are bigs go we have most likely 4 guys on the team next year thats going to be 7 feet or taller. With Kosta Fes Okur and, if they bring him over Tomic who we drafted last year. Now Kosta and Okur can keep with the bigs and , let’s see what Fes can do comin off the bech with Milsap why do you want more bigs when you have 2 guys that play that position very well and 2 that haven’t gotten a chance to prove them selfs? Keep the bigs we have now. You can’t afford to loose a step when Dwill is out of the game that’s why you draft a PG in this situtation. We don’t know what’s going to be of Ronny Price any way Jerry has made it clear by bench him the last two year he doesn’t like him. Now I now after game 5 of LA he said he made a mistake but, e still doesn’t like his style to much he made that obvisous. So why don’t you draft a PG that Jerry like and get a big in the second round?
Your draft picks aren’t goin to play this year any ways. Tyler will get drafted and spend this year and maybe the next down in the Dleague like almond and Kosta this year. A draft pick isn’t going to help out the jazz at all this year look for a long term affect. That’s why you get a piont guard this year. You have 3 or 4 big guys that haven’t even got a shot to prove them slefs see what they can do this year let your piont guard sit on the bench like all are draft picks and, If the big guys we have don’t work out you draft anther one next year

]]> By: Jared http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10183 Jared Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:21:34 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10183 tman did we watch the same playoff series vs the Lakers this year? You think we were killed because of our backup PG play? I don't get it. Kobe and the Lakers bigs murdered us in the playoffs this year. I think that almost all of us figure that either Boozer or Millsap is gone, and hopefully it is Boozer. That leaves us with a need for either a starting PF or a backup PF, but even if they both stayed we can't handle the Lakers down low game. The one position that we dominated was the PG. Spending a lot of time on a backup PG just tells me that there really wasn't any bigs that had any talent at all, because another backup PG wont win us the Lakers series. Honestly, I feel that Ronnie Price is a good backup PG. If we would have played him more and Knight less, I believe that our team would have played better. Most people want us to get another big because they saw a series that exposed our bigs. With Okur out and Boozer only showing up for 1 in 5, we have a glaring weakness at the PF. I hope that they do something about it this off season. tman did we watch the same playoff series vs the Lakers this year? You think we were killed because of our backup PG play? I don’t get it. Kobe and the Lakers bigs murdered us in the playoffs this year. I think that almost all of us figure that either Boozer or Millsap is gone, and hopefully it is Boozer. That leaves us with a need for either a starting PF or a backup PF, but even if they both stayed we can’t handle the Lakers down low game. The one position that we dominated was the PG. Spending a lot of time on a backup PG just tells me that there really wasn’t any bigs that had any talent at all, because another backup PG wont win us the Lakers series. Honestly, I feel that Ronnie Price is a good backup PG. If we would have played him more and Knight less, I believe that our team would have played better. Most people want us to get another big because they saw a series that exposed our bigs. With Okur out and Boozer only showing up for 1 in 5, we have a glaring weakness at the PF. I hope that they do something about it this off season.

]]> By: tman11 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10180 tman11 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:04:35 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10180 there is a lot of things wrong with what you just said buddy. One they won't be able to trade booze, unless he takes his player option. Two not a chance in hell would toronto do that trade. Boozer has nothing on chris they wouldn't do that trade no matter how much the jazz would love that maybe if you did booze and okur. Behind KG and Howard Chris is the best big man in the league Booze isn't even top 8. Why is every one set on a big man in this draft?. we have Kosta Okur wants to come back and i'm sure he will. Milsap, Tomic and, Big Fes. you got 5 guys that can play either power or, center give them a chance. Get a piont gaurd or best talent aviable. There is two big men if they got i would be happy but they are second round chioces any ways. You are in big time need of a bck of piont guard go out and get one. there is a lot of things wrong with what you just said buddy. One they won’t be able to trade booze, unless he takes his player option. Two not a chance in hell would toronto do that trade. Boozer has nothing on chris they wouldn’t do that trade no matter how much the jazz would love that maybe if you did booze and okur. Behind KG and Howard Chris is the best big man in the league Booze isn’t even top 8. Why is every one set on a big man in this draft?. we have Kosta Okur wants to come back and i’m sure he will. Milsap, Tomic and, Big Fes. you got 5 guys that can play either power or, center give them a chance. Get a piont gaurd or best talent aviable. There is two big men if they got i would be happy but they are second round chioces any ways. You are in big time need of a bck of piont guard go out and get one.

]]> By: coco http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10177 coco Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:46:43 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10177 ya well lets stop talking about stockton and malone and talk about boozer th e loozer we need to trade him for chris bosh then get a defensive re bounding big man in th e draft!!!! ya well lets stop talking about stockton and malone and talk about boozer th e loozer we need to trade him for chris bosh then get a defensive re bounding big man in th e draft!!!!

]]> By: tman11 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10108 tman11 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:09:16 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10108 Wait woah you actually think Karl wasn't a leader there are diffrent kind of leaders. Stokton may have lead by example but, Karl lead by him mouth he would really the jazz. When we were down and though out the whole season. He even lead by example I don't see how John was really a leader he just came in did his job and, went home. It takes more then just showing up to be a leader Karl was the hands down leader f the jazz back in the glory days of the jazz. Agreed though boozer needs to get the hell out of utah. Wait woah you actually think Karl wasn’t a leader there are diffrent kind of leaders. Stokton may have lead by example but, Karl lead by him mouth he would really the jazz. When we were down and though out the whole season. He even lead by example I don’t see how John was really a leader he just came in did his job and, went home. It takes more then just showing up to be a leader Karl was the hands down leader f the jazz back in the glory days of the jazz.
Agreed though boozer needs to get the hell out of utah.

]]> By: Brandi http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10101 Brandi Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:15:56 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10101 I agree that Karl Malone had a strong physical presence on the floor. But having been a die hard Jazz fan for 2 and a half decades, I have to disagree with the the statement about him being a "great leader". During those years (the Stockton Malone era) it became apparent that Stockton was the one that lead the team. John Stockton was the one that set the pace of the game, set up the plays, and kept the opponents guessing. He also kept the team focused on basketball by never being involved in off-court drama. He simply showed up and played excellent ball and never bitched. It is doubtful that Malone would have been able to put up the numbers he did without Stockton. Not only because of Stockton's assisting skills but because Stockton set a high standard of work ethic. Boozer would probably have better numbers and maybe even a better work ethic if he had a leader like Stockton. But then again, players like Boozer have a way of dragging a whole team down with them. BOOZER MUST GO!!! I agree that Karl Malone had a strong physical presence on the floor. But having been a die hard Jazz fan for 2 and a half decades, I have to disagree with the the statement about him being a “great leader”. During those years (the Stockton Malone era) it became apparent that Stockton was the one that lead the team. John Stockton was the one that set the pace of the game, set up the plays, and kept the opponents guessing. He also kept the team focused on basketball by never being involved in off-court drama. He simply showed up and played excellent ball and never bitched. It is doubtful that Malone would have been able to put up the numbers he did without Stockton. Not only because of Stockton’s assisting skills but because Stockton set a high standard of work ethic. Boozer would probably have better numbers and maybe even a better work ethic if he had a leader like Stockton. But then again, players like Boozer have a way of dragging a whole team down with them. BOOZER MUST GO!!!

]]> By: tman11 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10026 tman11 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:25:14 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10026 whats that bit about Karl malone not being a good leader? You really think karl wasn't a good leader, i think he was an amazing leader. He just wasn't a MJ leader but to to many people were. Jordan was an amazing player and an amazing leader that is why the jazz never could get ovet that hump. Not to mentionthe lakers with robert and derik two of the most cluch players to ever play. A shag in his prime and a young kobe, you had all these teams with amazing ballers. Thats why we never could win a championship it had nothing to do with Karl being a bad leader. Karl wasn't whinny Karl was demanding he wanted the ball i wish the jazz now days had more palyers like that. Epecially a guy like Karl i mean if you go t him the ball it was over I would be very mad if he didn't get upset about getting the ball or getting more help aournd him to win a championship. He had all the right in the world to say every thing he did he earned that right. Until boozer can be that dominate he has no room to talk, he has to shut his mouth and play ball instead of bitch about money. Or even last a full season please just get rid of him. As far as fitting into a jazz system i'll give him this no other power forward fits better with the jazz in the league right now. Unless you are going for a guy like tim duncan. Booze fits a jarry sloan system way well but, he can't play a full season and whines all the time let the man go. whats that bit about Karl malone not being a good leader? You really think karl wasn’t a good leader, i think he was an amazing leader. He just wasn’t a MJ leader but to to many people were. Jordan was an amazing player and an amazing leader that is why the jazz never could get ovet that hump. Not to mentionthe lakers with robert and derik two of the most cluch players to ever play. A shag in his prime and a young kobe, you had all these teams with amazing ballers. Thats why we never could win a championship it had nothing to do with Karl being a bad leader. Karl wasn’t whinny Karl was demanding he wanted the ball i wish the jazz now days had more palyers like that. Epecially a guy like Karl i mean if you go t him the ball it was over I would be very mad if he didn’t get upset about getting the ball or getting more help aournd him to win a championship. He had all the right in the world to say every thing he did he earned that right.
Until boozer can be that dominate he has no room to talk, he has to shut his mouth and play ball instead of bitch about money. Or even last a full season please just get rid of him. As far as fitting into a jazz system i’ll give him this no other power forward fits better with the jazz in the league right now. Unless you are going for a guy like tim duncan. Booze fits a jarry sloan system way well but, he can’t play a full season and whines all the time let the man go.

]]> By: eddy http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/06/06/the-boozer-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-10023 eddy Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:15:46 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=4427#comment-10023 MESA-AK47... To answer your question "what the hell are you trying to say about Karl Malone", its this: We shouldn't try to build a team around a Whiny power forward. We tried that in the past and it never quite got us there. As for your reference to his time with the Lakers, you're right, it was at the end of his career and you can't expect him to be the same. But again even during his short time with the Lakers he caused drama and Whined alot. I realize Malone had some great stats. But he wasn't the leader that could take his team to a title. You can see this if you look at his numbers, over his career He shot .516 in the regular season which is great but his post season % is sharply lower at .418 in the playoffs. Back to the topic of this article: I think the Author, Tim Gittins, makes some very valid (if not hilarious) points. Boozer must go if the Jazz want a chance at building a team that can compete at the top levels. MESA-AK47… To answer your question “what the hell are you trying to say about Karl Malone”, its this: We shouldn’t try to build a team around a Whiny power forward. We tried that in the past and it never quite got us there. As for your reference to his time with the Lakers, you’re right, it was at the end of his career and you can’t expect him to be the same. But again even during his short time with the Lakers he caused drama and Whined alot. I realize Malone had some great stats. But he wasn’t the leader that could take his team to a title. You can see this if you look at his numbers, over his career He shot .516 in the regular season which is great but his post season % is sharply lower at .418 in the playoffs.

Back to the topic of this article: I think the Author, Tim Gittins, makes some very valid (if not hilarious) points. Boozer must go if the Jazz want a chance at building a team that can compete at the top levels.

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