Trent on July 04, 2009 said:

I’ve already posted my feelings about getting T-mac on the Millsap post. He is not worth the huge contract he has. I think he would be a great player on the Jazz, but he is a glass-man. If we could get him on a much smaller contract (I mentioned 10 million on my last post), I would be all for it.

We could use a shooter of his caliber of course. I just think he is a Grant Hill; injury after injury, maybe a few decent seasons here and there…

eZAy on July 04, 2009 said:

This is CRAZY talk! T-MAC PLAYNG for the JAZZ. Excites the hell out of me! With all the trades and the free agent frenzy. I would like to see the JAZZ front office make some bold moves and risk. And the way you put it J.R it makes perfect sense. I’ve never liked T-MAC, but to see him in a JAZZ UNI. Would be HELLA SICK! Regardless of his health history, I would embrace and accept him. Love him and cheer for him!!!! Lol. Didn’t his wife say during the JAZZ vs. HOUSTON series that she HATES UTAH, and JAZZ fans??

GO JAZZ!!!!

Deb on July 04, 2009 said:

Would someone teach him how to pronounce Deron’s name and share the ball? I have no stats to back this up, but I believe Houston played better after he was hurt.

Brigham on July 04, 2009 said:

Brillant ! After we get T-mac trade Lozzer of Bosh and use are luxry tax for wade of lebron. Have D-WIll at point the rest in the lineup and have korver Brewer Milsap play other postiton

tman11 on July 04, 2009 said:

This trade just makes me sick Tmac is over rated. As Trent said he is a glass man if the jazz make this deall I wiill loose alot of respect for O connor. the little i have for him any way. For one this we will most likely have two first round draft picks any way. We made a trade with the knicks years ago and, depending on there rcord next year we will have a top 5 pick we don’t need to waste more money on anther draft pick. Anther thing is I would much rather see an Iron man on are team rather than a glass man. While Tmac has sat out more than half the season the last 3 seasons AK has played more games than any other jazz man. If your only save a quarter million it isn’t worth it if you were gett 7 or 8 million maybe but not for a quarter i hate this trade if it happens. I’m switching teams I don’t care if i get critized for it I would just loose all respect> I have for the O connor and, the way he runs the team and, i can’t be a fan of that

Blake on July 04, 2009 said:

In my opinion i think that the jazz would be an all around all star team if they made the trade.

Another Jazz Fans in Asia on July 04, 2009 said:

Houston doesn’t need AK. They have Ariza already who is proably doing the same set of “functions”, perhaps even with better shooting.

Another Jazz Fans in Asia
http://jazzfansinasia.blogspot.com

lew23 on July 04, 2009 said:

Your crazy if you dont want t mac on your team. that trade would be perfect. first of all it would be getting rid of AK horrible contract. To free up cap space for next year. Its not like anything is going to change this year anyways theres no chance the jazz can compete with the lakers or the spurs. which both got better adding artest and jefferson. Ya Tmac is never healthy but so what we just have to deal with him for 1 year. thiis year needs to be a year to start getting better and making changes for the future. ill take anyone for Ak as long as we get rid of his ridiculous contract. Boozer needs to go, same with AK. Harpring needs to either retire or get traded, Cj needs to get traded, brewer needs to learn to shoot and Sloan needs to consider calling it quits because we are sick of watching him make mistakes coaching everyone knew price should of played over knight. If we let Millsap walk it will be a decision our franchise is familliar with. for instanced trading dominique wilkins or letting sasha pavolic go and maurice williams. One last thing anybody that would rather have injure prone lying selfish carlos boozer rather than Millsap needs to consider becoming a fan for a different team.

ps. watch Morris Almond become a better player than Cj Miles.

BRigham on July 04, 2009 said:

I tried the trades on Trade machine on espn and they work perfectly and a little better deal for us.

Clark on July 04, 2009 said:

If this deal is really on the table, then the Jazz would be crazy not to make it. We will love the salary cap room we will have next offseason. I love Ak, but he isn’t the difference between the Jazz being contenders or not.

tman11 on July 04, 2009 said:

Once again you camparing a glass man to an iron man. What has Tracy really done any way? All i see him do is ride that bench in his fancy get up he would do the same on the jazz. The thing even say it frees up a quarter of a million you can’t do any thing with a quarter million that would put us down under the cap. If you make this deal your going to be paying a guy 22 million dollars a year to sit on the bench. He isn’t going to magically change just cause he is in utah. Have you guy checked into his injury at all. He has kneee problems the worst thing an, NBA player can have it’s 80 percent likely to give out on him again. He also has back problems as well there ya go he is pretty much 100 percent likely to get hurt.
You are pretty much doing this to free up a quarter million Yeah smart move. Ak’s contract is up in 2 years ride it out. Let AK start because he is alot better then what any on on here gives him credit for. I think every one just want’s to see a star here in utah is all. You people aren’t looking at this from a smart piont of view every just see’s the name Tmac and, thinks back to his golden year and, how popular he is and, think o wow we need him. Well Tmac is the furthest thing from what we need. He would do nothing but, hurt are franchise right now.The last thing we need is a self player that only thinks of himself. That’s all Tracy is he is a pioson to every team he goes to. Look it up.

BenC on July 05, 2009 said:

I think it’s time to think to the future. TMac-for-Andrei may not make a whole lot of sense now, but after this coming season with some key player’s contracts ending, I see a lot of changes happening for the Jazz anyway. Neither player is worth their current contract and I see this as a mutual help for both teams; Houston gets rid of the glass-man, and we get rid of the drama queen. It’s not like Andrei is even a starter. He’s the back-up for CJ Miles. CJ! AK doesn’t even seem to try to become a starter. So I say to this trade, “why not?” This is all circumstantial of course. We’ll see how things play out come the Feb. deadline, but my gut says this team will look substantially different after next season.

French Dude on July 05, 2009 said:

No way, first we don’t know if he can play again, 23 millions for a retired player…???? and i agree with Deb, he’s a ball-eater, Deron drive the team and Tmac is too old to understand that…. and for the next offseason, we don’t need money, we’ll never get Lebron, dwade or bosh

JJ on July 05, 2009 said:

dont do it

JayD on July 05, 2009 said:

I am sorry but but I disagree with you on T-Mac being a ball hog . The only reasson you saw him doing that was because no one else wanted to make to make things happen . That being said I do agree with tman11 that T-Mac has some inguries that he will probably suffer with the rest of his carreer .
I dont understand why you say that this is a good deal when evryone wants to get rid of Boozer because he is hurt all the time . T-Mac is also like that too .
This trade makes no sense to me . I love AK and in spite of his burdensome contract , I think that he still brings alot to the table for our team .
I say forget about trades till we see how well this team comes together this next season , then if things dont look good then make a trade before the deadline .
I still think that this team can play with the best of them . We havent even seen our team play a whole season together yet . Plus we have a couple of young players in Kosta and fez that will more than likely will see more playing time this season .
That is my take on this deal .
Jay

barry on July 05, 2009 said:

t-mac is crazy too sign. Glass man all the way this deal would be horriable for the jazz.

jeremy on July 05, 2009 said:

I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE DUMPED CARLOS BOOZER FOR A CHRIS BOSH AND T-MAC IS WASHED UP INJURY PRONE BALL HOGG AND IT WOULD CHANGE THE JAZZ STYLE OF PLAY SO I’M OPPOSSED FOR T- MAC IF THE JAZZ WAS SMART THEY SHOULD HAVE TRADED BOOZER OFF ALONG TIME AGO CHRIS BOSH WOULD BE A AWSOME TRADE THAT WOULD BOOST THE JAZZ POST PLAY PLUS SHOT BLOCKING FORGET T -MAC WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY TO HAVE HIM SIT ON ARE BENCH RATHER THAN HOUSTON’S JUST IDIOTIC TALK

Trent on July 05, 2009 said:

Really, the only reason I could see to sign him is to get cap relief for the following season. My guess is that’s the main reason the Jazz explored this trade in the first place.

mikej on July 05, 2009 said:

First of all, this trade isn’t going to happen so I don’t think it will matter. Secondly, the Jazz have to do something, right? Like lew23 said, we have no chance of competing for a championship with our current roster – the Spurs and (arguably) the Lakers both got better during the offseason. The Jazz have to do something, and while I don’t think TMac is the answer I think it’s better than stagnation. If T-Mac sits for a year and then leaves at least we free up the 17 million we’re set to pay AK during the 2010-2011 season. Obviously Wade and Lebron are out of reach but I think Bosh is a possibility. Even if we don’t sign a huge free agent in 2010 at least we’ll have some space to maneuver.

JRS on July 05, 2009 said:

I think Tracy would be good. Although he is very injury prone, I think a lot of the reasoning for that is because he has had to do so much for that Rockets team for so long. Someone compared him to Grant Hill, which I think is a perfect comparison. Grant went to Phoenix where he didn’t have to play all the time, and didn’t have to try and be spectacular. I think if we cut back on TMac’s minutes he would be fine health wise, and would be an awesome addition to the team. The guy knows how to play, and that is something I think we really need right now, is someone who can just go out there and dominate each and every night. Deron can’t do it all, and Boozer is to lazy on defense to really make an impact. That said, I still think we wait a little bit on this. This team has barely been able to play together at full strength yet. I say give it a few months, and see how they do together. If things still aren’t looking good, go for it. The expiring contract would be awesome for next year not even thinking about LeBron Wade or Bosh, There are still tons of guys out there next year that could really make a difference for our team. This year I think really needs to be for the future, rather than right now.
-JRS

rikki on July 05, 2009 said:

i love this trade we would get an allstar for a season and in 2010 we would have some money to spend on possibly lebron james

tman11 on July 05, 2009 said:

Yeah your are right AK comes off the bench ok yeah. Buddy look at the minutes per game AK got about 30, 35 and CJ didn’t don’t go by if he came off the bench or not go by minutes played. I know they asked Odom one time how he felt about coming off the bench. His answer was well as long as I am in in the 4th quarter I’m good. AK said the same thing it’s not who starts the game but who finishes it.
I believe AK would do a lot more then T-mac for the jazz this season Jerry is going to start him again. He really doesn’t have a chioce he has to and, AK will be back to getting his 16 17 pionts a game and 2 blocks and a steal a game. I know he slipped a bit but I really don’t see why every one thinks’s he is that bad of a player. 1.5 steals 1.5 blocks 4 assists and 14 pionts a game is bad. Not to mention he ran the offence last year when are second unit was in. He brought the ball up and set up the offence cause Knight couldn’t do it.
Don’t get me wrong T -mac is a stud but, that’s to much star power on one team. Look what happend to the lakers when they got all those guys on there team. Kobe Oneil Payton and Malone. They made it to the championship game and, lost in 5 they had a ok season as well. When you get all these guys on a team lookin to fill up a stat sheet it spells trouble. Boozer Dwill And, Tmac spells trouble.
If you could get anther deall done like dealing Boozer or some thing like that. I think it would be a great trade but, to me Deal AK just doesn’t seem like a great idea.Call me crazt but, to me AK does to much for are team when you are comparing him to a guy that can’t play even half the season. I also think AK meshes better when you put him with Dwill, Okur and, Boozer. Tmac would expect the ball AK doesn’t expect the ball t like that. Yeah some times he does but, not like Tmac would.

MK01 on July 05, 2009 said:

This is a great deal for the jazz! AK has gotten worse every season and CJ Miles is starting over him even. T-Mac even playing injured puts up better stats. We all know it would be a gamble to get T-Mac coming off of his sugeries. But on the jazz he will not have to carry a team himself, therefore will most likely not be as much of a risk for another injury with derron running the team and T-Mac just being a very talented role player, who can take over games when necessary. Also most of T-mac’s recent injuries have all stemmed from this one which he finally decided to have worked on. It is a gamble. But if T-Mac can remain healthy as a very good role player, which he is willing to do in order to win as you can tell by his stat change from scoring leader to more of a team leader in other ways from recent years when playing. Then the jazz will be a much better team and not only will teams have to double team Derron and find a way to shut him down, they also have to search for a way to slow down Tracy.

lew23 on July 05, 2009 said:

Tman11 I understand where your coming from but Ak usually has little to no impact on our team he is the highest paid player and he’s not worth it for two more years. Why waist money for next years free agency when we can shed his contract and take a chance on T-mac. Is Ak gonna put us over the top no is T-mac maybe if he is healthy. All Ak is doing for our team is making it hard to make any improvements. We definantly are not going to win a championship next year with the group we got so why waist our time paying big bucks to Ak when we can start looking to improve with next years free agency.

Steven on July 05, 2009 said:

No deal!! T-Mac is not as good as he used to be. Tracy is not a healthy player. I know AK gets hurt and misses a few games each season but AK has never allowed himself to worry about injury during playoff time. AK has always been ready to go and he plays hard. T-Mac on the other hand has missed the playoffs this last season and was injured the season before. Tracy is too expensive for the Jazz to even afford anyways nice try, but no.

tman11 on July 05, 2009 said:

Wow well you guys can keep thinking that way. You keep talkin about LA And, Ron artest being a ego p problem with them Tmac would be a big EGo problem. Espcially with Dwill and, Boozer on the team. Every one is going to want to want the ball you asking ofr big trouble with that. You want be able to get Bosh for Boozer either wow you guys are crazy. Think Toronto would do that deal. Maybe if you did Okur and Boozer maybe they would.
Last coment there’s is no chance in hell we are going to get a Wade or LJ or even Bosh so get over it.

Dallan on July 05, 2009 said:

I agree purely in a salary cap move we need to make it. AK is killin us. We know this year we are going to be over and if we want money to keep some of our players we need to get rid of AK contract. Brewer is up next year and now so is Memo and Korver if we dont have money how are we going to sign him? and we know Houston does not want Tracy anymore! I say go for it..

wompus on July 05, 2009 said:

I love this trade! I’ve been saying this for the past week, AK for T-Mac. Look, even if we don’t get a whole lot of production from T-Mac, at least next year look at all the expiring contracts, T-Mac, Boozer, Okur, and with 2 first round, possibly 3 first round draft picks if Houston throws theirs in, wow! Now if T-Mac works in our system and he’s health, and Boozer is healthy we would have a great team.

Now many people saw, we’ll he’s a ball hog, but I say he’ll fit into our system. Look, he didn’t play at all last year, the team did really good without him, he’s never made it out of the 1st round of the playoffs and he got his big contract, the only thing left is a ring on his finger which I think he’ll be way motivated to get, and next year is a contract year, and with the economy he’d be lucky to get $8M next year if he sucks really bad this year!

I love this trade, the only concern I have is defense. McGrady, Okur and Boozer are all about offense, we need a big man for defense. My first suggestion was trade Harping and Korver for a defensive big made, like Tyson Chandler, then AK for McGrady and 1st round pick next year, that we be a screaming good team I think. Then put D-Will at the 1, Mehmot and the 2, McGrady/Brewer at the 3, Boozer at the 4, and Chandler at the . The new draft pick will be backup to D-Will, Okur can play the 5 or the 2, Collins is backup for the 5, Millsap backup for the 4, and Brewer and McGrady play the 3. Then we still have two more big men, Costa and Fez. I think Costa should work on the 4 and Fez at the 5. The only thing missing is a good 3-pt person, but that’s why Okur is at the 2, he can spread the floor, and he’ll be playing undersized people, so if he goes to the hoop, he’ll demand a double team, opening up the 4 or 5. Then you have the pick and role for the 1-2, D-will and Okur, Okur can come out and hit the 3, Or the pick and roll for the 1-4, or 1-5. The only thing is you need a good scoring 3, and we all know T-Mac can shoot ’similar’ (now I’m saying similar don’t jump down my throat for this comparison) like Kobe. T-Mac can drain anything under 18 feet.

I really like this trade and I hope they can pull the trigger. Let’s get something new. I think AK and T-Mac are both dis-enchanted with their franchises, I think T-Mac wants to get out of the 1st round of the playoff’s and I think he will be motivated to do so.

wompus on July 05, 2009 said:

And, if there is too much ’star power’ where the players are playing for themselves and not for the team, trade Boozer before the deadline and have Millsap be the starter. So when T-Mac, D-Will or Okur aren’t getting their points, you have Brewer and Millsap who both have shown they can put up 20+ points a night if needed.

I think this is a great trade, my only concern is Boozer and T-Mac working together. Can they play for the benefit of the team or are they going to worry about their own stats. I think Sloan will be able to watch that and make a trade if needed.

Also, one more thing about why I think this is a good trade. I think AK is the one that has ruined the team in the locker room. I think AK isn’t willing to play in Jerry’s system and I think Jerry doesn’t want to play him or wants him to play differently. We all know that Jerry wants AK to put on more weight, to work on his athleticism and to get in the weight room more, but AK refuses to do so. I think Jerry wants to bench AK or get rid of him but since the front office hasn’t found a trade, they’ve told Jerry that he has to play him, which undermines Jerry’s authority as a coach. Imagine the other players on the team that know that AK is only playing because they want to get at least some production out of him.

Now I think AK could be a whole lot better player, but I think he is dis-enchanted here and needs to go.

I LOVE THIS TRADE! Kevin O’Conner needs to shake it up, give the fans something to come to the games and watch, because they can only sell so many ‘BUDDY’ season passes!

Cody on July 06, 2009 said:

T-Mac has proven that he isn’t a winner. Mentally he doesn’t have what it takes to win in the 1st round, let alone a championship. Why pay $23 M. for a player that is already retired mentally. We all know that the Jazz needs a defensive big man. If the Jazz are talking to Houson, they should be going after Scola.

Eric Saltz on July 06, 2009 said:

AK for T-Mac
Great match up
1. You get a crying baby for a whinny baby
2. They are both over paid
3. Another injury prone player would be great for the Jazz, especially since T-Mac will be out 1/2 of next season. Let’s pour a ton more money into booze, and hope he gets injured for 50% of his contract again.
Please read this with the up most of sarcasm.

this guy... on July 06, 2009 said:

i don’t think people are seeing the big picture of WHY this would be an “OK” deal for us…
we would get out of AK’s contract a year early, leaving us a bunch of money for free agency in 2010.
we would get ANOTHER 1st round draft pick in 2010 (ours, NY’s, and Houstons!) – if we wanted to trade up for someone, we most definately could.

now if the team is playing well i wouldn’t make a trade, but if we are looking like we were last year around December/January, I would think the trigger should be pulled.

Shannon in Sacramento on July 06, 2009 said:

Eric, I completely agree with your sarcasm. We do not want Tmac any more than we want Boozer. Why pay either player huge sums of money when they play 50% of the time. It’s ridiculous.

WY Jazz Fan on July 06, 2009 said:

Why do all of yo think we need to play T-mac. With his injuries we can drop him to injured reserve and never play him. He retires due to health NO MORE big money. We get a better big man for the miiddle and Have some cap room to manuever next year without paying the luxury tax this year. Harpring retires AK stays in Houston and with a 1st or 2nd round pick to go wth the trade we are in great shape. We only have to be within 25% of T-macs salary so if we don’t get a pick with both Harpring and AK’s salaries we are still good. With T-mac not playing and retiring because of injuries we have enough cap room to keep Millsap and at least some young raw talent we can bring along. You have to remember the team has to mesh in order to win. I think there are to many egos working against each other at this point in time. Even waiting for a few months to see if we can get the egos in check would be a good idea. By then we will know if Harpring is coming back or not. If not then we can add CJ to the pot and some 3rd stringer as well.

Jared on July 06, 2009 said:

I think that it would be a GREAT trade.

First, I think AK’s salary is a team buster. Just think, AK is making more money than Kevin Garnett! I bet dollars for productive minutes he is the worst contract in the league.

Second, AK’s production has been a huge bust. He was the skinniest player in the league before he went and lost weight last year. Now opponent Point Guards can post him up. He is an embarassment on the floor, and his lack of size and finesse play has really killed the bruiser image the Jazz used to have. AK doesn’t win us any games any more. In pure production terms it is a win for the Jazz. Even though T-Mac was playing injured he had a PER 3.5 better than AK. I know a lot of people talk about AK’s intangibles, but they just are not there any more. He is not going to be better next year. He played starter minutes and he isn’t going to get better. We are not talking about someone with Karl Malone’s work ethic here. AK is going to continue his statistical decline.

Now on to T-Mac. Honestly he is a similar story, but his production hasn’t fallen off because he doesn’t care anymore / wishes he had never left Russia, it has fallen off because he was injured. I don’t think that the Jazz would be a long term home for him anyway, but if after a year, he was willing to play for ~9 mill, it would be great. I have seen games in the past where T-Mac looked out of his mind good, and there is a chance (a small one) that he comes and plays great for a year before signing with someone else.

What do the Jazz lose? A sub-par overpaid small forward locked into one of the biggest gold mine contracts in the league for two years. What do we gain? A better than average scorer who is very injury prone, and freedom to really improve the team after next season.

I would pull the trigger in a heartbeat. From either standpoint the trade is a win for us. It will make us better this year, and it will give us the flexibility to make some real improvements next year. And don’t underestimate the Rockets draft pick for next year. If Yao’s foot doesn’t heal, there is no T-Mac, and no Artest – they are a lottery team.

wompus on July 06, 2009 said:

Exactly! If t-mac is injured, then insurance pays for his contract, not the franchise, most people don’t know that. So even though we go over the cap this year, we get that money back, so we can sign millsap, possible trade boozer for a defensive big man, and get all the money back from ak’s bad contract a year early to get some really good player next year, and with possibly 3 first round picks wow!

Also think about it, is AK going to help us win any more games next year? Not really. So why not get rid of his contract sooner? It makes total sense. Some uneducated fans might think it’s a bad move, but really, there’s more behind the scenes, why else did Boozer opt in even when he said he was going to opt out. He doesn’t want to play here, he doesn’t want to play defense, he wants to post crazy offensive numbers, he wants a big man behind him doing the dirty work, and he wants a pay increase. But, it doesn’t always work out like that

It’s a great move, let’s get it done!

J R Stewart on July 06, 2009 said:

Remember, the comment was made only that the Jazz had talked with Houston about an AK T-Mac trade.

I put in all of the embellishments of how the trade could work. This is all a fantasy about a possible scenario.

Who knows what was talked about, proposed or rejected, if anything.

Jazzaholic

tman11 on July 06, 2009 said:

Hey wompus you and, your friends on hare shold know this since you know about the whole insurance thingy. What’s are record when AK plays compared to when AK doesn’t? It’s alot higher We made due when Boozer was out. Even when Dwill was out we ajusted it may not look like he does much but, he puts up stats in the one catagory that matters to me and, should matter to every jazz fan and, That’s wins. Simple as that AK makes the jazz win games more then any one else on are team. It’s a proven fact go look when he was injured this year compared to when he was in they were alot better team. Tmac hasn’t been able to do that I find it funny the year he is injured and, can’t make it back for the playoffs they go deeper then they have since they faced the jazz in the western conferrance finals. So it’s that simple to me AK gives you wins Tmac hmmmmmmmmm he can put 25 30 pionts on the board but, not always a win.
There are a few more reasons like I mentioned your comparing an iron man to a glass man. He has played more games for the jazz the last 3 years then any one else him and, Memo don’t care if they are hurt they play. He maybe skinny but, please a piont guard post him up yeah that doesn’t happen come on. AK can still block shots and, steal the ball better then Tmac as well. The last thing we need on the jazz is anther scorer. Do you people realize we ranked 4th in scoring last year and, we have pretty much the same team except for milsap not sure about him yet. And you want to add anther scorer to a team that was 4th place in the league in scoring. Yeah if you ask me that doesn’t make sence. It tells me they won’t mesh at all Memo Boozer and, Dwill will be mad because there not getting the ball like they use to and, it will just be hell in the locker room. What happened to every one on here saying we need a deffensive player? Tmac is ok on D but, that’s not what he does. He is a scorer and, we have enough of that on are team as it is.
As far as the two draft picks go. We won’t be able to trade much for them and, be stuck paying 3 first rounders big bucks with I’m going to say at least two if not all three being a bust. So you just wasted about 10 million on draft picks. I don’t see are cap getting better with that ordeal. It just doesn’t look like a good deal to me there are alot more negatives then positives. I think most people are just stunned to see a big name on the Jazz I think is what all this is about.

lew23 on July 06, 2009 said:

tman11 is one of those annoying Jazz fans that causes players to not want to come to utah. Thanks tman11. Did Masha give you permission to spend a night with her husband because you obviously have something for him that no other Jazz fan has.

Nmjazz on July 07, 2009 said:

most of you don’t even know what the hell you are talking about.for those of you who say it would be a horrible trade, give me one logical reason why it wouldn’t greatly benefit the jazz. you can’t. Kirilenko has not been the same player ever since his big contract extension. he isn’t making a difference for the jazz right now. you people don’t understand that the jazz don’t have a chance of winning a championship with their current roster. they absolutely need change. For one, they have been severly lacking a leader on and off the court ever since Fisher left. They also desperatly need a true wing player who can score at will, which tracy Mcgrady can do when healthy. I know what a lot of you are saying, probably something like,”well T-mac is a glass man who is always injured and can’t get passed the first round and he would put us way over the luxury tax.” This is what i have to say to a comment like that, 1. we can handle having one player injured for half the season, it will let our other good players play more(i.e. Korver, Miles, Brewer.) 2. He did everthing in his power to beat the jazz in the first round two years in a row. He individually destroyed us, his team just didn’t carry their weight. 3. Yes we would be over the luxury tax for one season. So what? He comes off the books next year and leaves us with a ton of money to spend next off-season. And maybe we need to be a team that is in the luxury tax in order to compete. Look at the past two champions, the Lakers and Celtics, both over the luxury tax line. I am also in favor of the rumors of the Carlos Boozer for Richard Hamilton trade. They might even throw in a back up big man like Kwame Brown. That would leave the jazz with a line up like this:
PG: Williams, Maynor, Price
SG:Hamilton, Korver, Brewer, Miles
SF: McGrady, Brewer, Miles
PF: Millsap, Koufos, Brown
C: Okur, Brown, Koufos

A line up like that for the end of this season seems capable of competing with anyone in the Playoffs.

Risks for McGrady Trade: Injured Half the season, giving our current starters more time to play. stubborn, old sloan is unhappy.
Rewards: Jazz gain dominant scoring threat and leader, rid themselves of Kirilenko’s troublesome contract, clears up a ton of money for next summer.
There is no way this trade can turn out negative for the jazz. Either Mcgrady plays great and makes us a contender for a title, or he is injured, plays poorly but then leaves us with over 23 million dollars to play with next summer to go along with our lottery pick from the knicks. Both of those scenarios sound pretty dang good to me. Please pull the trigger on the possible Kirilenko and boozer trades O’connor.

Casey on July 07, 2009 said:

Finally, talk about a trade with the Jazz weakest position, the 3.

Brigham on July 07, 2009 said:

WHY DONT WE GET T-MAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on we trade to equal players and we get a first round pick! Either we get a new GM or he needs to take some risks!

tman11 on July 07, 2009 said:

I’m just saying and a few people will agree with me that AK still has some thing to give while Tmac is washed up and, a looser. But hey you can go back and, make sweet love to Boozer since he is divorced and, all. I think the 3 is are weakest position but, getting rid of AK isn’t the answer to that problem.

Courage on July 07, 2009 said:

YESSS this will give the JAZZ tht extra push they need for a title run…with all the big trades tht hav been goin on lately this wuld b the perfec opportunity for UTAH to make there statement…
Favorite players (t-mac&d-will) + Favorite team (utah jazz) = championhips = rings!

tman11 on July 07, 2009 said:

You don’t get Tmac cause it throws the chemistery of your team out of wack. Like I said before the last thing the jazz need is anther scorer. Dwill Boozer and, Memo won’t know there role any more it’s like Ron artest going to the lakers. That’s going to throw there whole team off because every one is going to have to learn diffrent roles. I like what are GM does he keeps what works together I mena the jazz went to the western conference finals 2 years ago. We have the same team as then just injury problems have happend. So i ask you this question again why fix what’s not broken?

tman11 on July 07, 2009 said:

How many playoff series has Tmac won yeah zero. That’s right he can pick up his team and, lead them to wins. he isn’t agreat leader he is just a glory hog that is washed up and, can’t play any more. You want that on the jazz

Cameron on July 08, 2009 said:

No. You cant argue with the fact that the Rockets are soooo much better when he doesnt play. He is a cancer. Ak sucks, but thats just it. He sucks. T-Mac would tear us apart.

lew23 on July 08, 2009 said:

Ak sucks tman11 i think your the one making sweet love to AK. you have something for him for sure Ak cant play he cant shoot and he turns the ball over a ton he wont go up for a strong dunk and he’s out of control. I would trade Ak for an old washed up greg Ostertag.

Orcis on July 08, 2009 said:

@ lew23 – Wow, I can’t believe you just said you would rather have Greg Ostertag back than AK. I think you just proved tman11’s logic more sound than your own. I actually agree with points from both of you. I’m just not so sure that T- Mac is a good Jazz fit. It just makes sense in the Jazz system that it wouldnt work. Just my openion. As for AK, he has been horrible at times, and he has een great. Out of controle is a good phrase to describe it. Although even sloan has said that the jazz offence runs better when Karalinko gets his touches. I believe there is more to Karalinko being part of the team than what you are giving him credit for.

Respectfully

tman11 on July 08, 2009 said:

Hey NM if Tmac being a glass man and not being a winner isn’t logical I don’t know what is. Lew no need turn turn this into a personal battle just cause you know I’m right and know a hell of a lot more then you you don’t have to try and, shut me down with coments like that. Were all jazz fans here and, want the best for are team we all just have diffrent views of whats best for the jazz.
You guys sit here and, talk about ron artest being bad chemistery, Tmac would be the same for the jazz. look at it we were 4th place in th whole league in scoring last year and, looking to trade for rip aswell. Yeah that is way to many scoring threats on a team. It’s been proven before that a bunch of scorers doesn’t work out. The lakers with Karl Kobe Shaq Gary did it work nope. the suns with Amre Nash Bell and Shaq Richardson. Did that work out? no it did not. That’s what i see when i sit there and, look at a line up with Rip Tmac Dwill and, Okur all on the same court. You are asking for troulbe Tmac and, Okur are ball hogs. I don’t know if Dwill can step up and, lead a team with that many high profile players on it . I’m not even sure if Jerry could control a team like that or a player like that.
Anther thing come on Milsap can’t start he showed us that last year Kosta would have the starting job before the end of the season if that is his competition.

Jared on July 08, 2009 said:

tmann – you keep talking about chemistry as though the Jazz have some. Boozer was a team chemistry killer when he finally got back from injury last year. Do you remember how frustrated Millsap was in interviews when Boozer’s return was getting close. I could tell that he felt like he had really produced, but that there wasn’t anything he could have done to keep the starting position. Not only that, towards the end of the season the reporters actually commented on the Jazz having locker room issues, and I don’t think I remember that since Ostertag came back all fat and slow and Malone let him have it. Now, I know that Tmac and the Rockets hasn’t worked out well, but I think that Tmac on a team with other scorers would take pressure off of him, and he would be happy to fit in. Honestly, we owned the Rockets in the playoffs because of the way we fronted Yao, and the way that D-Will dominated the Rockets Point Guards. Tmac didn’t have anyone else to help on offense. Maybe I am just having a pipe dream and he would work out terribly, but we would at least be rid of AK’s terrible contract. I know that you love AK, but seriously he is a total bust of a player. He isn’t going to get better, because he hasn’t had any heart ever since he wasn’t the focus of the team. I would take a slightly worse team for a year to be rid of AK a season earlier, but I think that Tmac gives us an ever so small chance to be much better next year, and I would jump on it.

- Jared

mike on July 08, 2009 said:

i would hate the trade. t mac is over rated and he’s never even made it out of the first round of the playoffs, the year houston finally makes it out of the first round he has no part of it. that’s probably why houston wants to get rid of him. he’s just going to be like another derek fisher and screw us over.

Sky on July 09, 2009 said:

Some people have made some very good points on both sides but I think this trade would benefit us. Everybody has talked about the ability to dump AK’s contract to clear salary cap space and I think it would be a great move for the future of our franchise. I love AK’s game but we already have a lot of players who can make up for the dirty work that he gives us. With T-Mac on the other hand, we get a guy who’s in a situation similar to that of the Celtics a couple years ago. He just wants to win a championship, I think he could contribute and sacrifice his numbers for the success of the team, much like KG had to do over the last two seasons, in order to win. Plus he gives us another option at the end of games, he could take pressure off of a number of players. He could fit in perfectly with our second unit if he stays healthy, which is a key part of our success in past years. I think Deron is an amazing leader on the floor and Tracy can bring that leadership when Deron is resting. Plus, if you look at who burns us all the time. . . for the most part it’s the elite shooting guards of the league. I think he could bring us some more size at that position and possibly help slow down the guys who burn us (kobe, dwade, he could match up with Melo too). I think AK is a great player but I think we can afford to get rid of him.

tman11 on July 09, 2009 said:

I like that sky a diffrent piont is good to hear instead of the same stuff over and over. I agree Tmac is looking for a championship but, the other one we have other guys on the team to make up for AKs scrappy play and, stuff i have to disagree. THe jazz didn’t play much defence any way except for brewer and AK. That’s why I’m not liking this trade that people are taking about with Rip hamilton also.
I have made my piont about TMac I know I’m right about it so I’ll shut up. but I will talk about Boozer for Rip. Whats up with that? All your doing is setting the most underrated player on the jazz to the bench for a guy that is going down hill. Rip isn’t the player he was was they were going to the finalls. Your forrcing Milsap to start as well wich I know people will disagree but, the fact is there he can’t start a whole season he got hurt after 18 games he is just to small for the way he plays. That trade is worse then this AK for Tmac bit. They are both going to hurt us though, I think every just see’s Tmac as a high profile player in the NBA and, get caught up in that instead of the situtation we have. We don’t need anther scorer on the jazz we can do that already we need defence. we also don’t need a glass man that can’t win ball games either

lew23 on July 10, 2009 said:

@orcis its called sarcasm…. like I would really rather have greg ostertag.

lew23 on July 10, 2009 said:

tman11 you dont like any trade the jazz make your obviously content with medocracy what are you a Mcdonalds manager or something. You tell us what a good trade is because you obviously think you know more than anyone else on here. Or do you think we should just stay the same because we are so good with group we got.

tman11 on July 10, 2009 said:

I like alot of trades like the one we are whipping up with chicago and, portland. Were we give Boozer to chicago the Bulles give Kirk to Portland adn, we get Tyrus Thomas. I would hope we would make a move for Tyson Chandlergive Memo for Tyson. OR maybe even going for Amre. I just do’nt think we should mess with are front court it is way solid with Dwill and Brewer. I don’t think that needs fixing. I wouldn’t be dissing on a Mcdonalds manager they make great money but, no I’m a an assistant basketball coach at a college down here in Arizona.

Philippe on July 10, 2009 said:

You Jazz fans must be smoking something nice because this proposed trade would never happen from the Rocket’s perspective.
Why would they give up TMAC’s expiring contract for AK’s 2 year deal? They can use the TMAC contract to either get a real asset from a team needing to shed salary or they can hang on and have money to spend on the free agent market in 2010.
Again, why would the Rockets do this??

lew23 on July 11, 2009 said:

tmann I finally agree with one of your comments. I think TT would be awesome in a jazz uniform he is an amazing shot blocker and super atheletic. just messing with you about the Mcdonalds manager thing. It just drives me insane when people back up AK when he has done nothing but hinder the jazz. The jazz better match Millsap offer or we are going to see our division rival dominate us night in and night out. If we let millsap go i think we should go after someone like David lee. Or figure out a trade for Amare. I think i would trade anyone for booz cause im sic of watching him on the bench every year.

tman11 on July 11, 2009 said:

Ak is ok to me I was just really against Tmac coming here but, I think you could get Amre for AK and, boozer. Steve Kerr is open to pretty much any thing and, he is in rebuilding stage again with his team I would shoot that offer at him to see if he would bite.As far as Tyrus goes I honestly see him as a star in the league in about 2 years. If he doesn’t turn out liek that at least he going going to be a solid defender that can play the pick and, role offence. Wich is exactly what we need I think him and, kosta would be killer on defence both long guys that block shots. I would like to see that line up Tyrus also compliments Milsap way well Paul can go in there and, break some skuls and, knock guys around, while tyrus can run right passed them. they both can block shots also and, play great defence. He is the closest thing the jazz will get to a player like Chris Bosh no worries about the manger thingy.