Comments on: Will We Ever Have This Again? http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/08/21/ready-will-we-ever-have-this-again/ Utah Jazz Official Fan and Team Blog Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:40:21 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: AMIR http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/08/21/ready-will-we-ever-have-this-again/comment-page-1/#comment-12318 AMIR Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:29:58 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=5267#comment-12318 JOHN STOCKTON DOES YOU WIFE SPEAK CROATIAN? ARE HER PARENTS FROM ZAGREB? JOHN STOCKTON DOES YOU WIFE SPEAK CROATIAN? ARE HER PARENTS FROM ZAGREB?

]]> By: JayD http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/08/21/ready-will-we-ever-have-this-again/comment-page-1/#comment-12014 JayD Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:25:03 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=5267#comment-12014 I have to agree with all that was said , except that I do think that we could see that combo again . It will be hard but that I am sure of , but it can happen . But we live in a time when there is not much love for the game , and those paychecks keep getting bigger and bigger . That is one of the follies of the game . I say please lets have some fun again . Make sports a better place for the fans . Jay I have to agree with all that was said , except that I do think that we could see that combo again . It will be hard but that I am sure of , but it can happen .
But we live in a time when there is not much love for the game , and those paychecks keep getting bigger and bigger . That is one of the follies of the game .
I say please lets have some fun again . Make sports a better place for the fans .
Jay

]]> By: Shannon in Sacramento http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/08/21/ready-will-we-ever-have-this-again/comment-page-1/#comment-11979 Shannon in Sacramento Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:19:22 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=5267#comment-11979 Great blog Brian. I highly doubt there will be a duo like Stock and Malone again. Also, like Jimmie stated, there are too many prima donnas and big egos out there to see that level of commitment again. The only person I think that comes close to that is Steve Nash. That guy is tough as nails and wants to win. I think DWILL has what it takes, but he will get frustrated in no time flat if he doesn't have another person on the team that will play to his level, and believe me, when his contract is up, there will be many a team waiting to snatch him up. Great blog Brian. I highly doubt there will be a duo like Stock and Malone again. Also, like Jimmie stated, there are too many prima donnas and big egos out there to see that level of commitment again. The only person I think that comes close to that is Steve Nash. That guy is tough as nails and wants to win. I think DWILL has what it takes, but he will get frustrated in no time flat if he doesn’t have another person on the team that will play to his level, and believe me, when his contract is up, there will be many a team waiting to snatch him up.

]]> By: wompus http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/08/21/ready-will-we-ever-have-this-again/comment-page-1/#comment-11971 wompus Sun, 23 Aug 2009 06:02:10 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=5267#comment-11971 Totally agree! In today's world, it's about the money, and less about the game! Back then, they were happy to play and didn't complain. Perfect example, Carlos Boozer. Malone and Stockton played with injuries. They could have sat out a season and babies themselves, but playing the game was more important. No one today is going to do that. Their agents are going to say, don't hurt yourself, get that big contract first. Because of that attitude, we're not going to see the hustle like we once did. Even though there are good players, we just don't get their best! Totally agree! In today’s world, it’s about the money, and less about the game! Back then, they were happy to play and didn’t complain. Perfect example, Carlos Boozer. Malone and Stockton played with injuries. They could have sat out a season and babies themselves, but playing the game was more important.

No one today is going to do that. Their agents are going to say, don’t hurt yourself, get that big contract first. Because of that attitude, we’re not going to see the hustle like we once did. Even though there are good players, we just don’t get their best!

]]> By: Linda McFarland http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/08/21/ready-will-we-ever-have-this-again/comment-page-1/#comment-11964 Linda McFarland Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:12:27 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=5267#comment-11964 Really enjoyed the blog. I'm afraid that we better all keep our dreams alive because no matter who you draft or trade for, you can never get both that commitment and ability to merge into that kind of team. I fully agree about the huge salaries and the "prima dona" attitudes of the players that are in the NBA today. If you don't want to play hard for one team and you are good enough, you just wait around for another team to grab you. Sad. You brought back great memories Brian and a hope that we have a few players who may just try to play near that catagory. The problem there again is that our best players are turning into BIG money makers and you wonder what that will do to them. Really enjoyed the blog. I’m afraid that we better all keep our dreams alive because no matter who you draft or trade for, you can never get both that commitment and ability to merge into that kind of team. I fully agree about the huge salaries and the “prima dona” attitudes of the players that are in the NBA today. If you don’t want to play hard for one team and you are good enough, you just wait around for another team to grab you. Sad. You brought back great memories Brian and a hope that we have a few players who may just try to play near that catagory. The problem there again is that our best players are turning into BIG money makers and you wonder what that will do to them.

]]> By: Pelon http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/08/21/ready-will-we-ever-have-this-again/comment-page-1/#comment-11963 Pelon Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:04:41 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=5267#comment-11963 -Amir Nope. We're over the cap. -Amir
Nope. We’re over the cap.

]]> By: J R Stewart http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/08/21/ready-will-we-ever-have-this-again/comment-page-1/#comment-11961 J R Stewart Sat, 22 Aug 2009 07:18:15 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=5267#comment-11961 Their longevity and durability are going to make either one hard to replicate anytime soon. Jazzaholic Their longevity and durability are going to make either one hard to replicate anytime soon.

Jazzaholic

]]> By: Jimmie http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/08/21/ready-will-we-ever-have-this-again/comment-page-1/#comment-11958 Jimmie Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:59:53 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=5267#comment-11958 We won't for two reasons; 1- No one will ever be as good as those two were. PERIOD. You put Jordan (the "greatest player ever") one on one with Malone or Stockton without Jordan being able to foul all over and not get called, and Jordan gets schooled. Yeah Stockton's a little white guy, but no one can handle the ball the way he can. And Malone is just a bull in a china shop. Jordan would spend more time on his back than on his feet. Put the two of them together, and you get Stockton throwing no-look passes with pinpoint accuracy or pulling up and raining threes, and Malone with his, as Hot Rod put it "Leap n' Leaner!!!" Best in show. 2- Players today are babies. Plain and simple. In the 90's you had players who were commited to the game and would put their bodies on the line every night. NOW; we have giant egos dwarfed only by the mammoth paychecks. Which would be fine if they played hard enough to deserve them. Case in point; Boozer missed more games THIS YEAR than Malone missed in his entire career with the Jazz. I may not be more than an amateur player, but you give me $1 mil a year and I'll play with a broken leg, run 48 minutes a night, and I'll still smile for the camera and sign autographs for the fans. The commitment that is lacking from today's players is sickening to me. Between the tantrums, the refusal to shake hands (that's just common decency people), the pre- and post-game stunts, and the lazy play; I find it hard to watch. D-Will has that fire to carry the team and the youth to make it happen. Harpring is a little older but still has the linebacker power. I could go on, but the point is; we need to have Harpring, Thurl, and Karl putting their commitment, knowledge and desire into a young player like Stock is doing for Deron. I just don't think that it's going to happen. The egos are getting built up in high school now and no one is being taught the value of good hard work. We won’t for two reasons; 1- No one will ever be as good as those two were. PERIOD. You put Jordan (the “greatest player ever”) one on one with Malone or Stockton without Jordan being able to foul all over and not get called, and Jordan gets schooled. Yeah Stockton’s a little white guy, but no one can handle the ball the way he can. And Malone is just a bull in a china shop. Jordan would spend more time on his back than on his feet. Put the two of them together, and you get Stockton throwing no-look passes with pinpoint accuracy or pulling up and raining threes, and Malone with his, as Hot Rod put it “Leap n’ Leaner!!!” Best in show.
2- Players today are babies. Plain and simple. In the 90’s you had players who were commited to the game and would put their bodies on the line every night. NOW; we have giant egos dwarfed only by the mammoth paychecks. Which would be fine if they played hard enough to deserve them. Case in point; Boozer missed more games THIS YEAR than Malone missed in his entire career with the Jazz. I may not be more than an amateur player, but you give me $1 mil a year and I’ll play with a broken leg, run 48 minutes a night, and I’ll still smile for the camera and sign autographs for the fans. The commitment that is lacking from today’s players is sickening to me. Between the tantrums, the refusal to shake hands (that’s just common decency people), the pre- and post-game stunts, and the lazy play; I find it hard to watch. D-Will has that fire to carry the team and the youth to make it happen. Harpring is a little older but still has the linebacker power. I could go on, but the point is; we need to have Harpring, Thurl, and Karl putting their commitment, knowledge and desire into a young player like Stock is doing for Deron. I just don’t think that it’s going to happen. The egos are getting built up in high school now and no one is being taught the value of good hard work.

]]> By: Amir http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/08/21/ready-will-we-ever-have-this-again/comment-page-1/#comment-11955 Amir Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:38:13 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=5267#comment-11955 can utah sign free agent desmond mason from oklahoma city thunder?starting small forward is needed forget about duo that was ok 20 years ago it doesnt have to be pg and pf all the time it can be center power forward can utah sign free agent desmond mason from oklahoma city thunder?starting small forward is needed forget about duo that was ok 20 years ago it doesnt have to be pg and pf all the time it can be center power forward

]]> By: Jenn Sokia http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/08/21/ready-will-we-ever-have-this-again/comment-page-1/#comment-11954 Jenn Sokia Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:47:39 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=5267#comment-11954 I agree with you, I don't think there will ever be a duo like Stockton and Malone. If we even want to think about it, we need to find a PF that will stay a long time (assuming Deron will, too). It takes time to build chemistry like they had. I will always remain hopeful though. :) I agree with you, I don’t think there will ever be a duo like Stockton and Malone. If we even want to think about it, we need to find a PF that will stay a long time (assuming Deron will, too). It takes time to build chemistry like they had. I will always remain hopeful though. :)

]]> By: dwilljazz8 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/2009/08/21/ready-will-we-ever-have-this-again/comment-page-1/#comment-11953 dwilljazz8 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:53:33 +0000 http://www.jazzbots.com/web/?p=5267#comment-11953 I agree with you on most of your points except for the fact that I do think we will have a duo that is comparable to Stockton and Malone, with Dwill and a PF from the 2010 draft. Millsap is good but he is only 6'8 and he is not as good of a shooter as Malone was. Boozer will leave at the end of this season, or get traded mid season. If he is traded we can get either Amar'e Stoudamire or Chris Bosh, Amar'e seems more possible to me. He has a great jumpshot, great rebounding skills, plays scrappy defense. He could end up being as close to Malone as you can get. Or if Boozer stays with us till the end of the season, then leaves in the off season, then we just pick up a someone in this years draft. We have the Knicks lottery pick this year, so we could end up getting someone like Ed Davis from the North Carolina or Greg Monroe form Georgetown. Ed Davis is a 6'9 power forward, that is a workhorse, but does not possess as much strength as Malone did. he is compared Amar'e but less strength. While Monroe, has great hands, a great jump shot out to about 15-20 feet. His post moves are good but not great, plays good D. And is good at rebounding, but once again not great like Malone was. He is compared Chris Webber who I personally think had the same game as the mailman did . Personally I think Monroe would be better, but either one would be great. So, yes in the future(about 2-3 years) we will have a duo that is comparable to Stockton and Malone, and will also win some championships. (We have always picked since we picked D-will in 2005, why not in 2010 also.) I agree with you on most of your points except for the fact that I do think we will have a duo that is comparable to Stockton and Malone, with Dwill and a PF from the 2010 draft. Millsap is good but he is only 6′8 and he is not as good of a shooter as Malone was. Boozer will leave at the end of this season, or get traded mid season. If he is traded we can get either Amar’e Stoudamire or Chris Bosh, Amar’e seems more possible to me. He has a great jumpshot, great rebounding skills, plays scrappy defense. He could end up being as close to Malone as you can get. Or if Boozer stays with us till the end of the season, then leaves in the off season, then we just pick up a someone in this years draft. We have the Knicks lottery pick this year, so we could end up getting someone like Ed Davis from the North Carolina or Greg Monroe form Georgetown. Ed Davis is a 6′9 power forward, that is a workhorse, but does not possess as much strength as Malone did. he is compared Amar’e but less strength. While Monroe, has great hands, a great jump shot out to about 15-20 feet. His post moves are good but not great, plays good D. And is good at rebounding, but once again not great like Malone was. He is compared Chris Webber who I personally think had the same game as the mailman did . Personally I think Monroe would be better, but either one would be great. So, yes in the future(about 2-3 years) we will have a duo that is comparable to Stockton and Malone, and will also win some championships. (We have always picked since we picked D-will in 2005, why not in 2010 also.)

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